Last night I landed in the middle of this discussion with Julie:

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```I’m going with @gwaddellnvhs next year. I’m keeping it very simple so I can tie it all together. I want them to see how it’s all related.

— Julie (@jreulbach) May 29, 2015

~~Until we get Glenn to share his ideas (C’MON GLENN I DON’T WANT TO HEAR YOUR PhD EXCUSES)~~,UPDATE: Glenn has shared part one of his ONE MATHS blog posts here! these are my big three goals for Algebra II this year:

**Simplify stuff.**Also, I want to*check*our simplifying. Let’s plug 7 into (x + 8)(x + 3) and see if we get the same thing when we plug 7 into x^2 + 11x + 24. Let’s graph it on desmos and see if we get the same graph! Oh, look, we’ll get the same output for any x! (I think this would also help with the “plug in any number” method for the ACT, which totally blew my mind when I first read about it. “No, wait, it can’t work fornumber I pick, can it? How does it know which number I’m going to choose?”)*any***Solve stuff.**We will do this by legally undoing things. And also check by plugging in the answer and by graphing.**Graph stuff.**90% of which we can graph by using the (h, k) method.

Our department is also planning on using Jonathan Claydon’s layout for Algebra II that hopefully will foster more connections as well!

Back to last night: as things often do in the #MTBoS, the discussion turned to factoring:

@mrdardy yes. After this year I’ve decided to not teach factor by grouping ever again #MTBoSDirtySecrets — Julie (@jreulbach) May 29, 2015

So if factoring by grouping or box or slide and divide or airplane or bottoms up is not working for you or your students (i.e. do they all remember the “slide” but forget the “divide” part?), join the cool kids and go back to Guess and Check.

“But wait, Meg, how can you be all hip and cool and use ‘guess and check’? I mean, that doesn’t sound very mathy at all. I bet you don’t even wear pink on Wednesdays.”

Hey, Mean Girl, it’s not just guess and check….it’s *educated* guess and check! It’s like finding factors of 111…you could try every number from 1 to 111, but if you’re smart about it, you know *not* to try 2, 4, 5,… so you can focus on the ones that at least stand a chance!

True story: One year I taught Algebra II both guess and check and slide/divide. Those that had the least math skills chose slide/divide, but then they would get a really big number for *ac* that had a bajillion factor pairs, and since they weren’t great at arithmetic to start with, they couldn’t choose good number pairs (“hmm, I wonder if 2 and whatever 168 divided by 2 is will add to equal 13? Better break out the calculator and punch. every. button. so. slowly. so. very. very. slowly. Huh, wow, didn’t work. Ok, what about 3 and…”) so it took them way longer to guess and check *ac* than educated guess and check process. AND THEN THEY STILL FORGOT TO DIVIDE! Also, in Precal, I have kids that are in love with slide/divide and then slowly but surely, they’ll come in for some extra help….”so could you show me your method again?”

Ok, so here it is:

And, no, it’s not like our first guess is right *every* time…but it usually doesn’t take too long!

Here are the above charts in a handy word doc in case you want to discuss with your department. I actually don’t do a NoteTakerMaker for these, because another big secret is to USE WHITEBOARDS or some other dry erase surface. Unless you want to hear them complain about the guess part of it all day long.

Also, I think next year I’m going to teach *a* equal and not equal to 1 the same day. If it’s equal to one, awesome, I can lock that in! Maybe that way they won’t freak out as much when *a* doesn’t equal 1? Because full disclosure: yes, mine still complain when *a* doesn’t equal one.

Let’s round out this post with some more Quadratics (part of my summer goal to get all of my resources online, see more on this page!)

Factoring homework (hint: I sometimes use the first problems as examples in class, then tell them they get to start on #____ or assign just the odds, with evens for optional practice).

And my first day of factoring review:

File here. Next year: save grouping for polynomial chapter.

Now let’s solve these puppies!

File here. (I can’t seem to find my solving by square roots, but I do teach it! Promise!)

And now let’s solve some with complex answers (I usually wait and do complex number operations later–it’s a good “oh, here’s three days before break” section that can really go anywhere in the year)

And then the quadratic formula (I save completing the square for converting to vertex form; see it in this post.). And now let me reveal Jim’s (@mrdardy) awesome quadratic formula manipulation:

It’s only 1,000 times easier to simplify AND you can still sing “Pop Goes the Weasel” because it is still “all over 2a” AND whoa look at that vertex just pop out!!

And here’s some practice (6 to a page!):

And the study guide.

Now go forth and spread the news of educated guess and check throughout the land!!!

## glennwaddelljr

May 29, 2015 at 5:00 pm

Wow. You post literally a ton of amazingly useful stuff, and I get called out as the giant slacker I am all in one post.

You got it Meg. I will get my groove on.

## Meg Craig

May 29, 2015 at 7:02 pm

Yes, my public shaming worked!! (But I never thought you were a slacker, just bad at prioritizing my needs first. 🙂 )

## Julie

May 29, 2015 at 8:26 pm

Dang. This is awesome. I wish you taught near by! I would LOVE to see you teach and work with you!!

## Meg Craig

May 30, 2015 at 12:28 pm

Aw, you’re too sweet! At least we have the interwebs that allow us to work together!

## Alicia Erwin

May 30, 2015 at 10:20 am

Loved this! this year in algebra 1, I tried not starting with a=1 when factoring. I taught guess and check ( although I introduced with area boxes) and just threw all the problems together! So refreshing to not have students ALWAYS think the two numbers had to mutltiply to the last term and add to the middle!

## Meg Craig

May 30, 2015 at 12:29 pm

Ok, you’ve convinced me…definitely teaching it all mixed together next year! Thanks for the comment!

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## Madelyne Bettis

June 13, 2016 at 10:21 pm

This is good insight. Did you do it just like this this year?

I usually start factoring with GCF, then grouping. I’ll then use grouping on ax^2+bx+c and then on x^2+bx+c with recognizing no need to do a*c first. THere are some students (the cool ones) that say to heck with the algorithm and figure out how to guess and check but I tell them I can’t teach it to them… I guide them and question them on what it means to “check” and sometimes the light comes on. I should try to teach it next year. Thanks for the motivation.

Do you give your homework for a unit/chapter all at once? Your Factoring Homework” has four sections on it…

Thanks, Madelyne

## Meg Craig

June 17, 2016 at 12:54 pm

I’ve tried every method under the sun, but have narrowed it to guess-and-check for about the last 4 years. A lot of work in the beginning getting them to check (some of them actually foil the entire thing out for each check) but they get quicker with more practice and I find they retain it longer. Students that come from “slide and divide” classes forget to divide 92% of the time.

I (try to) give one homework sheet for as many sections as is reasonable–maybe 3-4 or sometimes if I’m super good the whole chapter! It helps keep things organized for myself and the students and also eliminates the need to hand out little tiny slips that have 10 problems on them for them to lose. 🙂 But sometimes life gets in the way and I don’t have my act together so they end up getting daily homework.

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